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  1. AzeoTech

    sending data through serial cable

    That's ok. Just tell all your friends how much you like DAQFactory.
  2. AzeoTech

    sending data through serial cable

    OK. First, I'm going to assume when you say: && 01404950.75 !! you have a carriage return after each line, and that 01 and 40 are the same every time since you are just sending one channel. Here is what you do (note for other readers that you cannot do serial comm with Express. You must use Lite or higher. Express only works with the LabJack): 1) and you've already done this: create a new serial device by going to device configuration, New serial / Ethernet, creating a comm port and selecting the NULL protocol. Lets say you then gave this device the name "serout" 2) we're going to need a flag to turn this on and off, so create a new sequence, call it "StartUp" and put this one line of code in: global SendDataOut = 1 do =0 if you want the default to be to NOT send data. 3) now, in your Ch2 channel, we are going to add an event. So, click on Ch2 in the workspace under CHANNELS: (you may have to expand the tree), then click on the Event tab in the new view. Put this code in the event tab: if (SendDataOut) device.serout.write("&&" + chr(13)) device.serout.write("0140" + format("%07.2f",Ch2[0]) + chr(13)) device.serout.write("!!" + chr(13)) endif 4) create an onscreen button to toggle SendDataOut between 0 and 1. Just use a button component and select Toggle Action. This will output ch2 in the format you gave with every new data point. Note that this may slow your data acquisition. If ch2 is being read quickly (say > 10hz) you may see problems. There are ways around this (i.e. putting the output code in its own sequence so it runs concurrently). To explain the code: The first line checks the flag and if it is not 0, it then outputs The next line writes the && and a carriage return. If your device requires a line feed instead, use chr(10). If both, then chr(13) + chr(10) The next line is a little trickier, only because of the format() function. The format() function allows you to specify exactly how a number should be displayed. In your case, you want 7 characters, 2 decimals, and preceeded by 0's (i.e. 1.23 would be displayed as 0001.23). The format() parameters match exactly with the format parameters of the C printf() statement, and so anyone with any introduction with C should understand it. There are also loads of books, and of course our help which describe it as well. The 4th line is basically the same as the 2nd, and the last line just closes the if. Once you have it set up, use the monitor to see the data being sent out. Thanks. In your case though, I would not create a custom protocol and follow the lead I gave. If you were outputting multiple channels or were doing anything more advanced, you might want to move to putting the code into a protocol so it can be reused.
  3. AzeoTech

    sending data through serial cable

    I'm afraid I don't completely understand your question. What is ch2? What do you mean by on/off switchable? Do you want to send this at a constant interval, and be able to turn off this constant update? In general, the command you want is write(): device.mydevice.write("&&" + chr(13)) for example would output && plus a carriage return to the device named "mydevice" that you created with the NULL protocol. The rest is just normal scripting. Use some of the string functions to create that 0140... number (I'd use format()), and perhaps a while() loop and delay() to create an repeating loop. A breakout box isn't going to help much unless you have a scope, and then I'm not sure what you are going to do with it unless you know how to read serial, and well, why? Anyhow, you will find the comms going over pins 2 and 3. Normal, non-hardware handshaked RS232 serial lines use pins 2 and 3 for communications and 5 for ground. The rest are not used. In null modem, pin 2 of one side is connected to pin 3 and vica-versa and pin 5 is passed straight through.
  4. AzeoTech

    rpm measuring

    Yes, it looks like this one is not used as the same command is in the Config sequence. I'm not seeing that. Are you using the latest verson of DAQFactory? DAQFactory scripting is loosely modeled on C I suppose. The help file and user manual PDF have a description of the language in the chapters called "Expressions" and "Sequences". With release 5.7+, we've made it so much of LabJack specific code looks almost identical to the C code and pseudocode that LabJack provides. You just need those first few lines "using(...)" and "include(...)" that are in the startup sequence. There are some other small differences as well, but these are described in the help under the LabJack section of the Devices Chapter.
  5. AzeoTech

    Modbus problems

    No there is no limit, though under versions 5.40 and earlier there was some code that could slow it down. So, first, upgrade to the latest version by downloading from our website. Then, look at the monitor and see how long it takes to send and receive a response. Next, you should try and put your tags in consecutive order so DAQFactory can retrieve the values with the minimum number of calls. If, for example, you want to read tags 1,2 and 3, DAQFactory can make a single call. If you want tags 1, 5 and 8, DAQFactory has to make three separate calls.
  6. AzeoTech

    rpm measuring

    Yes, 99.99% of the time, if you get "unable to load document", it means you are trying to load a document that was created with a newer version of DAQFactory. The latest version of DAQFactory Express is available from www.daqexpress.com The other 0.01% is people with file corruption, usually caused by a power fail in the middle of a save, and thus the reason to always keep backups!
  7. OK, there are a lot of variations here, so you'll first really need to determine what you want to happen when. For example, if you start the program at 9:00 do you want the action that happens at 8 to occur immediately or wait until tomorrow? That said, here is the general principals: DAQFactory supports the generation of time constants using what we call hms notation. We use the notation because its universal around the world, as opposed to 02/06/71 which could be either feb 6th, or jun 2nd depending on where you are. Most of this is described in the help under expressions, but here is a quick summary. To demonstrate, lets assume you want feb 6th, 2007 at 18 hours, 32 minutes, 12.34 seconds. In HMS notation it would be (note, no spaces): 7y2m6d18h32m12.34 This gets converted directly into the number 1170786732.340 which is DAQFactory time for the same thing and thus the same format as systime() and everything else time in DAQFactory. Now, to make things easier, you can drop certain parts. For example, if you don't specify the year, this year is assumed. But more useful, if you don't specify the date part at all, today is assumed. So: 8h is 8am this morning. What "this morning" is depends on when the statement is executed, so if you do: if (systime() > 8h) this statement will return true if, at the time of executing the if statement, the current time of day is later than 8am. Easy enough. The trick comes when you want to wait until 8am tomorrow instead. You would then simply need to add a day to the time, remembering that it gets translated to DAQFactory time which is seconds since 1970, so: if (systime() > 8h + 86400) Truthfully, this is a useless statement, since it will never be later than 8am tomorrow, because when tomorrow comes, its no longer tomorrow, etc.. This sort of statement is really only useful when using the waituntil() function: waituntil(8h + 86400) In this case, 8am tomorrow is calculated once, today, and then the waituntil executes waiting until that time. It does not reevaluate the expression, so tomorrow doesn't become today like it does in the if() example and the wait executes properly. So, you have two choices for your needs: 1) you can create two sequences, one for each condition, both looking something like this: while (1) waituntil(8h + 86400) .. do whatever you wanted to do at 8am endwhile 2) you can create a single sequence, and be really smart with your ifs. Here you have to decide what happens if the sequence starts after 8am (code written in 5.73): private done1 = false while (1) if ((systime() > 8h) && (!done1)) .. do first condition done1 = true endif if ((systime() > 22h) && (done1)) .. do second condition endif delay(1) endif 3) oops, I guess I should have read you question better. My mouse isn't working so I'm driving my computer solely by keyboard . It appears you want to do first item if the time is between 08 and 22, and second item if its between 22 and 08. Well then you don't have to worry so much about the day stuff, just do: while (1) if ((systime() > 8h) && (systime() <= 22h)) .. do first item else .. do second item endif delay(1) // or whatever interval you want the loop to run endwhile
  8. AzeoTech

    Transferring license problem

    This is actually a common question, and so we've actually changed the error message, adding "Make sure you've installed the proper driver from your hardware manufacturer" or something like that. Communicating with the LabJack consists of a number of parts: DAQFactory -> DF Labjack Driver (labjackn.dll) -> Labjack UD (labjackud.dll) -> Low level system driver -> LabJack firmware. Only the first two parts are included in the DAQFactory installation. The rest come from LabJack and are available from labjack.com. That said, you can get this error message three ways: 1) DAQFactory actually can't find labjackn.dll. This is very, very rare, and would only happen if you tried to manually move DAQFactory around and for some reason moved the labjackn.dds file and not the labjackn.dll file 2) You installed DAQFactory on a new machine and forgot to install the LabJack drivers (UD etc) that come from LabJack. AzeoTech does not distribute the drivers provided by LabJack (or any other manufacturer), partially for copyright reasons, and partially because we don't want to be distributing old versions. The easy fix is to simply go to Labjack.com and download the latest drivers 3) You installed a new release of DAQFactory and then used the LabJack drivers from the LabJack CD, but the CD is quite old and so are the drivers. This is probably what is happening here. The latest release of DAQFactory is built with the latest version of the LabJack UD, so if you are going to use the 5.73 of DAQFactory Express, you have to download the latest UD from Labjack.com and not use the one on the CD. Bottom line, and this holds true with the UD -> LabJack firmware connection too: if things aren't working right, make sure and download the latest versions of everything.
  9. Well, good. I'm glad you understand wait(), and you should definitely migrate back to it once you get the system stable. However, I still recommend you switch to delay(), at least temporarily, to see if this is the problem. You have a lot going on in your code and the wait()'s might not be acting the way you think. Switching to delay() is the easy fix. If it doesn't work, we can take a closer look at your document. Unlike Windows, which seems to think that all their users are incapable of properly using a computer (and many are incapable), and thus simply keep you from doing things so you don't get yourself in trouble even if you know what you are doing (my recent favorite is that you can't share the program files directory, even if you are logged in as an admin), DAQFactory gives you complete flexibility, but with it, comes the possibility to create scripts that actually cause DAQFactory to hang. The two most common ways are: 1) creating infinite loops at priorities at or above User Interface, without the proper delay to allow the GUI to run 2) putting code in component actions, or starting functions from the command line that are not quick (I even forget this second one sometimes . This is because the code runs in the GUI thread and so the GUI stops while the code runs, meaning DAQFactory appears hung. Screen refresh is part of the GUI too.
  10. OK, we received the file through the AzeoTech support center and taken a quick look. Before I jump into the problem, I'm afraid I have to give a short lecture. I don't like to do this because the customer is always right, but it is globally acknowledged among programmers that not following good code indenting is very bad. It makes code very difficult to read. I very strongly encourage you to gain that habit and use it, especially since you are writing more than just a few lines of code. Not only will it allow other people to help you debug your code, but in a few years when you go back and review the code yourself, you'll have a much easier time figuring out what you did. I should add, though, that if you see code on a web page (or our help system, which is HTML, though I believe we have it all proper), it may not be properly indented. This is because of the way HTML parses spaces, making it somewhat more difficult to indent using normal HTML. You can type in code indented, but HTML displays it incorrectly. This forum does a pretty good job with it, provided you remember to put a CODE block around it. DAQFactory, however, provides lots of good tools to help with indenting, such as the ability to select a block of code and hit Tab or Shift-Tab to indent / outdent. That all said, most likely your problem is that you are using the wait() statement instead of the delay() statement. As it says in the documentation, and should even warn you about in more recent releases, the wait() statement should only be used in very specific circumstances and can cause hanging if used improperly. This is because the number inside the wait (i.e. wait(3)) is the maximum wait time, not the absolute wait time. The actual wait time can be much shorter, even 0, if there are delays elsewhere. If your loops are running slow, the wait will go to 0 and then chew up 100% of your processor time since you effectively have an infinite loop with no pauses to allow other parts of DAQFactory to run. An infinite sequence running at priority 5 will run above the user interface priority and so can make DAQFactory appear hung. So, try changing all your wait() statements to delay() and that most likely will fix the problem. For those wondering why there is even a wait() statement, its to allow for loops that run at an exact time interval. So: while (1) .. do something wait(1) endwhile will cause the loop to run every second no matter how long "do something" takes, provided its less than wait amount, in this case 1 second. If you instead did: while (1) .. do something delay(1) endwhile the loop will run at more than a second, actually the sum of 1 second (the delay) and the time it takes to "do something". As I said, the problem with using wait() is that if "do something" gets delayed for more than a second, the wait() will not wait at all, trying to catch back up with the proper loop interval, and can cause DAQFactory to hang. This is why you should never use wait() with serial/ethernet communications, and really only with devices that always respond quickly (like PCI cards). The more recent versions of DAQFactory will warn you not to use wait() the first few times when you apply sequence code that contains a wait().
  11. OK, so you are saying that DAQFactory stops responding, but the rest of windows is still running. This could be caused by some problems in your document. Can you please attach your .ctl document so we can review? If you don't want to make it publically available, go to www.azeotech.com and the contact page and post it their so it goes direct to us. We no longer post email addresses because of spam crawlers (which has gotten horrific, as I'm sure you know), which is the only reason I'm not simply giving you my email address here.
  12. AzeoTech

    DAQFactory versus LabView

    The ability to create protocols quickly within DAQFactory is a relatively new and powerful feature and so we haven't had much time to build up a big collection, but are certainly working on it. We'll be expanding our site a bit in the coming months and will start adding these in, but there is no master list. Many people are able to simply develop it themselves and so we never see this code. We may try and create an area where customers can share their protocol drivers.
  13. So are you having the same problem, or is the PC now crashing? Does it crash at a particular spot? How does it crash? Blue screen? hang? Message? These will give me clues as to what is causing the crash. DAQFactory does not have any problems with multi-core or multi-processor systems. In fact, as a very multi-threaded application is will take full advantage of as many processors as you throw at it, and was developed entirely on multiprocessor machines.
  14. AzeoTech

    DAQFactory versus LabView

    It all depends on the protocol. The hardest part sometimes is actually finding documentation for the protocol, especially if the device is not made anymore. If you have documentation, most devices fall into one of two types: simple ASCII, and binary with CRC. There are more complex protocols, such as DNP, but they are much more modern. Depending on your experience and desire, you can actually use the tools provided by DAQFactory to write your own protocol drivers. Its not terribly hard and we include a nice PDF primer on this in the download. We are of course here to help, which can be answering questions to help you develop your own protocol driver, or having us take care of it for you. Prices range from about $200 to $2000 depending on the complexity of the protocol and how many different functions you need implemented. So, $200 might be for a driver to allow you to read the temperature from a PID loop controller, and set its setpoint using a straight ASCII protocol, and $2000 would be something like implementing binary PLC driver with all functionallity. Pricing also depends on how reusable we think it is. If we think that many customers will benefit from the driver, then we typically discount the costs. If there is a particular protocol you are interested in, just email documentation on the protocol and we can give you a fixed price quote. I took a brief look for HP3585 docs on the net but couldn't find them. Oh, one other thing that is quite helpful is if you actually have the desired device and it is hooked up to a computer connected to a high-speed internet connection. We have tools to allow us to remotely connect in and test. Actually, Base does not come with the symbols, but that's just a minor detail (you can see what's included with what by going to this page: http://www.azeotech.com/nfeaturegrid.php). The easiest way to add new symbols is to simply create them in your favorite drawing program (say Photoshop) and cut and paste into DAQFactory. This works on all versions, even Express. With Standard and higher, you get the symbol library, so you can also put your own custom symbols in this library. The symbols are mostly drawn using vector graphics, so a program like Illustrator works best, or there are a few shareware WMF drawing programs available. These programs, or even Photoshop or other bitmap editor can be used to modify the existing symbols, though if you use a bitmap editor, you will lose the ability to scale or rotate the image within DAQFactory, so you'll want to draw it at the desired size. One of the most common ways people use images is to actually draw out the background (static parts) of their pages in Photoshop and then overlay dynamic components within DAQFactory. This is actually how the QuickMod program gets the rounded rectangles. You can also see it in the AshlandWater.ctl sample, where a bitmap map of Ashland is overlaid with dynamic controls. This sample also shows how to make what would be called a client side image map in HTML, allowing you to click on areas of the map and switch to different pages. A panel component is simply placed behind the image with click Action.
  15. AzeoTech

    DAQFactory versus LabView

    First, in all the paid versions you get all 40 some screen components. If you buy Standard or higher you also get the 3800 symbol library. So, to answer your main question: Yes, most everyone has heard of Labview, largely because it was probably rammed down their throats in Engineering school, partially because NI has a billion dollar budget, and partially because its been around for 30 years or so. Its not quite the same as your MS Word analogy because really there are only so many ways to do word processing, and so most word processing apps are the same. LabView and DAQFactory are quite different approaches. The main difference is that LabView programming is done with a mouse, drawing lines between different screen components, where DAQFactory is a regular structured text scripting. Personally, as a structured text programmer, I find LabView difficult to understand as it is a complete different paradym then regular programming. Unless they are a LabView expert, I think most people agree. We get a lot of people that come over to DAQFactory because LabView is so difficult. With DAQFactory, anyone with any programming experience in almost any language can very quickly figure out the syntax and make quick progress in developing applications. With LabView, really only LabView experts are going to be able to help you if your application is of any complexity. Yes, there are a fair number of LabView experts, but a pittance compared to the number of regular programmers in the world. There are a few other apps that use a similar method to LabView, i.e. DASYLab, but DASYLab was actually sued and taken over by NI because of the patent infringement, so when you are actually buying an NI product (of course, the same applies to Measurement Computing and IOTech hardware, though they were simply bought by NI a year or two ago). The other big difference between DAQFactory and LabView (and every other application that I know of) is that DAQFactory allows you to make changes on the fly without stopping your application and recompiling. So, if you decide you need a new graph halfway through your experiment you simply drop one in. With LabView, you'd have to stop the app, make the change, then restart, hoping that your equipment remained in a stable state while the computer wasn't controlling it. With DAQFactory, even on runtime installations, you can put a hardware key in and temporarily switch it to development mode to make changes on the fly. The advantage of this is not just the fact that you don't have to take the system offline, but also that it makes development faster and easier because you get immediate feedback on what you are doing. When you drop a graph on the screen and change its parameters, you see data immediately in the graph and can tweak it right there and then. There are probably three areas where LabView is better than DAQFactory: 1) LabView has a lot more analysis tools, so if you are doing heavy duty engineering calculations, LabView has the toolkit. DAQFactory is a bit more of a HMI/SCADA app and so doesn't have the real high end toolkits, though you could simply buy a C library and call it from DAQFactory. 2) LabView supports many more hardware devices. Among DAQ devices at least (not automation devices), manufacturers basically have to make a LabView driver if they want to survive. So, National Instruments doesn't have to do any drivers, a lucky position to be in. DAQFactory isn't supported by every DAQ card manufactured but with its ability to call external DLL's and its powerful serial/ethernet tools you can expand it yourself or have us create a driver for you. 3) LabView has a lot more samples available. Of course without the samples you wouldn't get anywhere with LabView, and even with them, there is still a steep learning curve on LabView. DAQFactory really makes up for it with our stellar support. Just ask anyone who has worked with us. With NI, you'll get someone reading out of a book, with AzeoTech you'll get someone who was involved in development of the product and knows it top to bottom. So in my personally, and obviously biased opinion: Definitely use LabView if: 1) you have a LabView expert on staff, or you yourself is a LabView expert already. 2) you need to do a lot of really advanced data analysis that NI's toolkits cover 3) you need to use a lot of different DAQ hardware, or NI's high end stuff. When I say DAQ hardware, I'm talking mostly about internal PCI based cards or USB based devices like, but not including (because DAQFactory supports it already), the LabJack. Definitely use DAQFactory if: 1) you have experience programming in structured text (i.e. normal programming) or access to a regular programmer and don't have time to spend months learning LabView 2) your data analysis needs are bit more normal 3) you are creating an HMI / SCADA application or really anything for industrial automation 4) you are using DAQ hardware primarily from one manufacturer (and thus we can create a driver for you easy), you are using devices that are connected through serial or Ethernet, or if you are connecting to any sort of automation device (PLC, RTU, etc). 5) taking your system offline for a change is a big issue 6) if you value good technical support
  16. I forgot to mention. Another thing about 5.7 is that you can select multiple components and change common properties on these components all at once. Among the common properties are the event and function script, so, to some extent, if you need to update script you can just select all the components and make the change. Of course this only really works if the components are on the same page, or overlayed pages. No sense on 6.0. We just released 5.7, so the programmers deserve at least a day off! We are always looking for beta testers. Send an inquiry using our online form at www.azeotech.com with your interest.
  17. Unfortunately, no matter what development tool you use, there are always some clumsy aspects. That is until computer's start thinking for us, and really, I don't think you'd like that. Windows does enough of that already and most of the time it does it wrong. But to answer your questions: 1) There are no component templates in the sense that you change in one place and it changes on all. As of 5.70 there is the ability to add functions / events to components as well as your own custom properties, but its not a template. If you duplicate the component, the code duplicates, but if you then change one, the duplicate does not change. We'll add templates to the list of new features. The trick is trying not to make things too confusing, as half the time you want it to be a template so it changes everywhere, and the other half you wonder why your change affected all the other controls. That said, you can kind of implement it as a template by using a component function and then having that function call a global sequence function with its name as the parameter. A bit clumsy still. Or you could use the new messaging functionality to actually send the component the code it should execute. Fortunately we also made it so it will auto-name your components, if you put a number at the end. So if you name your first component Button1, and then duplicate it, the duplicate will be named Button2, etc. Anyhow, I guess I'm going around in circles. If I was doing your app, was using 5.70+, and wanted to be able to change the code on all 64 buttons in one swoop, I'd probably use either use the user properties feature, or determine the property from the channel name (i.e. use the number at the end so I didn't have to type in Channel1, Channel2, etc. for each component). For the display part, I'd use the OnPaint event and set the Expression to the appropriate channel based on the component name. Then I'd probably create a global variable containing the function code to execute when the button is pressed. I'd assign this code in a startup sequence, and then in the button's event, just do Execute(MyGlobalString). The trick to this method is to understand that Execute() can be used on multiple lines of code with a single call. Just put a chr(10) at the end of each line. So you might do (I'd recommend a different variable name!): global string MyGlobalString MyGlobalString = "private x = 2" + chr(10) MyGlobalString += "x++" + chr(10) MyGlobalStirng += "? x" + chr(10) Now if you did Execute(MyGlobalString), it would run that code in whatever context you did the execute(). So you can use local variables from a component, even though they don't exist in the global scope where you created this string. The nice part about it is that you can just edit this string to change all components that use it. 2) Unfortunately, DAQFactory does not yet have pointers, or for those that are scared of the word "pointer", references. We are working on it rapidly and it should be in place by release 6.0. In general, if you are advanced enough to want to use pointers, you might want to consider just using variables instead of channels. With 5.70+ (at least on non-Express versions), there are functions to allow you to add values to variables just like a channel. Its much faster, but you lose the ability to use built in Logging sets (not export sets), and broadcasting, and would have to trigger alarm checking manually. Oh, and you'd have to script the polling loops. But, again, if you are doing advanced stuff, you probably are scripting this stuff anyway so you have more control. Again I ramble. Until there are pointers, you are going to have to use Execute(). Remember though that you can do a single Execute() command and run lots of code as I described above. A single Execute() with 5 lines will run faster than 5 executes with a single line. Currently, all function parameters are passed by value, so if you pass a channel history, it copies the current contents first, so any changes to this array will not affect the history. We hear your pain and are working on making things easier without having the computer think to much for you. 5.7 is a step in the right direction and by 6.0 your dreams will come true . Note that 5.7 is that latest release of DAQFactory and is available from our website at www.azeotech.com. Upgrades are free. The Express version of 5.7 has not been released, mainly because we haven't updated the samples, but we'll probably just release it next week and update the samples afterwards. One of the big changes in 5.7 that affect LabJack users in particular is the updated driver that supports almost all the functions of the UD as is, meaning the code you would enter to work with the UD in C, or VB, or other languages, and thus the pseudo code in the LabJack manuals, is almost identical to the code used in DAQFactory, with the exception of streaming, which DAQFactory largely handles for you.
  18. AzeoTech

    multiple daqfactory programs simultaneously?

    Yes and no. Channels and components are pretty easy. Channels you can export then import, and components you can simply cut and paste. Conversions, however, would require retyping, same with logging, export sets. One thing many people do is create a single document and then use a flag, perhaps set in the StartUp sequence, which determines which parts of the program run. This allows them to keep one code base for their application. Its appropriate if there is some commonality, but if you have two completely separate apps, I'd just run them simultaneously and see how that works. The flag method also doesn't work too well if you are using channel timing. To make it work right, you'd have to dynamically create your channels.
  19. AzeoTech

    multiple daqfactory programs simultaneously?

    I'm afraid I don't have a definitive answer for this one. It depends on many things. In general, you can have more than one copy of DAQFactory running at the same time on a single computer. With express there definitely should not be a problem. With full versions, you can sometimes run into problems if you are using the hardware key. What happens is if both copies try and validate the key at the same time, one of the copies will think the key is missing and throw up a window. Fortunately, you just say "Retry" and all is well, but it can be annoying. Truthfully, I'm not really even sure that this is an issue anymore due to some internal changes we made recently. That's the DAQFactory side. The question then is whether the LabJackUD can handle being called from two different apps at the same time, even if those apps really are just the same app being run twice. This is the part I'm really not sure of, and you'll probably just have to try it, or perhaps the LabJack guys can address it I know that you can run into problems if you are running DAQFactory and fire up the LJControlPanel, but that may be because LJControlPanel accesses all the labjacks and does other things that only the LabJack guys know. If you kept the two apps separated, i.e. each communicating with a different labjack, then you'd probably be ok. Finally there is the licensing issue: if you have two labjacks, then technically you have two Express licenses and therefore you are ok to run two copies simulataneously on the same PC. If, however, you run more simulataneous Express apps than you own labjacks (and therefore Express licenses), then technically you are in violation of the license agreement as you are essentially trying to bypass the limitations of Express (i.e. get 4 pages instead of 2) In the end, this is probably a moot point as I really doubt that two different copies of DAQFactory running simulataneously on the same PC can access a single LabJack at the same time. You are therefore much better off simply buying DAQFactory-Lite for $199 and saving yourself a whole lot of problems. You'll also get unlimited pages, 30 more screen components, access to other devices and other features.
  20. AzeoTech

    SEQUENCES

    With DAQFactory you don't use eDigitalOut or DigitalIO, but rather simply create channels for your I/O and set those channels. I recommend you go through the guided tour as this shows the basics. The functions described in the LabJack user's guide for the U12 are largely not used in DAQFactory (though the U3/UE9 are), so you should not look rely so much on that manual for this information. Instead, the guided tour, the chapter on sequences and the U12 samples at www.daqexpress.com should help.
  21. AzeoTech

    Newbie sequence question

    Yes: 1) name your graph by selecting it, then right clicking and selecting Component name.... Lets say you named it MyGraph. 2) In script somewhere you can freeze the graph by doing Component.MyGraph.XAxisFrozen = 1 The other thing you could do is simply scale the graph appropriately in the x axis. This is probably a better way. So, you set the Scale From to 0 (the start), and then set the Scale To to a variable. Lets say you used GraphScaleTo. In the event your speed channel, you would put code like this: if (speed[0]) // non-zero GraphScaleTo == Systime() - starttime endif So, the graph scaling will only change when the speed is non-zero. Yup, just use the table component. This time you'll want to subset each column by time. DAQFactory will automatically subset by the time of the data instead of the index if the values in the [] are time values. So: speed[starttime,starttime+GraphScaleTo] will return an array of all values in the experiment, and only between starttime and the last graphscaleto time. You may need to add scrollbars, in which case you'll need another variable and more subsetting. Lets call the other variable TableScroll and initialize it to 0: global tablescroll = 0 Then, use a scroll bar, or buttons to change this value. In the table, your expressions will be doubly subset. For exmple: (speed[starttime,starttime+GraphScaleTo])[tablescroll,tablescroll+20] The inside subset gives us the data within the experiment, and then we further subset it to give us just 21 rows starting at tablescroll. That means as you change tablescroll, new values will appear. Did you create a v channel called starttime? Really you should use variables for this and not v channels. V channels are a bit of a left over from earlier versions of DAQFactory, and are really only useful for what you are doing with them in that calc, namely, making a dynamic variable that is simply a calculation, which saves you from retyping the calc everytime.
  22. AzeoTech

    Shutdown sequence?

    Yes, the most recent versions of DAQFactory have an OnShutDown sequence. You can read about it under Sequences - System Events in the help/user manual. Basically you just create a sequence called "OnShutDown" and that sequence will be called when DAQFactory exits, or the document unloads (i.e. new doc, or load a different doc). There is no event for page change however. For this, you should simply create buttons to change your pages and in the button actions, put your code and then change the page in code (page.strCurrentPage = "Page_0" for example). You'll then need to run your app in runtime mode so you don't accidently change the page through the workspace.
  23. AzeoTech

    Newbie sequence question

    The problem is that your expressions for your V channels result in scalars, not arrays. You can see this by clicking on the V channel in the workspace and then going to the Table tab. A graph cannot display a scalar because thats only one data point and you need two data points to draw a line. I can tell you have a scalar by looking at your expression: V. Accel = (Counter[6]-Counter[10])*0.1659-(Counter[1]-Counter[5])*0.1659 Here you have some constants (0.1659), which is of course a scalar, and you reference the counter channel. When you reference the counter channel though you are subsetting to a scalar value. [6] means return the 7th most recent value. [1] means the 2nd most recent value. So, you basically have an expressions with only scalars, so the result is a scalar. So, to get V.Accel to be an array of values you need to keep Counter as an array. How you do this depends a little on what you want, but I'm going to assume that a running count will work for. Lets assume your history is set to the default 3600: V. Accel = (Counter[6,3600]-Counter[10,3600])*0.1659-(Counter[1,3600]-Counter[5,3600])*0.1659 By doing counter[x,3600] we are getting an array of values starting at the x data point and going to the end of the history. For example, if Counter had: {1,2,3,4,5, ...} and we did: Counter[1,3600] - Counter[2,3600] this would reduce to: {2,3,4,5,...} - {3,4,5,....} or {-1,-1,-1,....} As you can see, the end result is an array, and so can be graphed. Note that [0] is the most recent value, not [1]. Also, obviously [1,3600] and [2,3600] are two different sized arrays. DAQFactory will automatically truncate the larger array to the size of the smaller array (by truncating the end, or oldest, data points). Now, for your other question. Yes, you can. To do this, you need a global variable storing the start or 0 time. Something like: global starttime and then when you want the 0 time, put: starttime = systime() Now, in your graph, put this, for example, for the X Expression: V.Accel.Time - starttime That will simply subtract the starttime from the time of each data point in V.Accel. You'll need to set the bottom axis style to "Lin" as well, turn of "Use Time Width" and set the scaling to 0 to 60.
  24. Please see reply to other post. I do not believe burst mode is supported in the U3. I thought that was a U12 feature, but as I said in the other post, the LabJack guys keep adding cool features and I can't keep up!
  25. AzeoTech

    U12 in streaming or in burst mode

    I can't keep up with all the features the LabJack guys keep adding to the U3, so they may have to correct me: Both the UE9, and therefore presumably, the U3 allow you to stream and soft poll at the same time. This means you can start a stream and then manually read other channels at a slower rate. The simplest way to read inputs at a slow rate is to simply create a channel for them and set the Timing parameter to the desired polling rate. There is no coding required. If it turns out that the U3, like the U12, doesn't support soft poll and stream at the same time, then I would just stream all the channels and average down the slow channels to the desired rate. As I just mentioned, the U12 does not support streaming and polling at the same time, nor does it stream at 4k, so you would not want to switch to a U12.